Frequently Asked Questions

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What is the “Atman”?

 

What is the True Self?

 

How did “The Atman Principle” start?

 

Why Ormus?

 

What is the difference between ORMEs and Ormus?

 

In what way does ormus energize?

 

There are already a number of Ormus companies out there. Why create another?

 

What is the goal of your company?

 

The Philosopher’s Stone? You mean turn Lead into Gold?

 

How can the ultimate power of the original self be manifested?

 

Six senses? I thought there were only five?

 

How much m-state (Element) is in (Product)?

 

If you don’t know exactly (how much/what kind) of m-state elements are in your products, how do you know that there are any at all?

 

Ok, I’ll try it. How can I buy ormus from you?

 

Is my credit card safe with The Atman Principle?

 

Do you accept PayPal?

 

How long before my order ships?

 

How long before my order arrives?

 

What is your refund policy?

 

My ormus has settled in the bottle. Does this mean I am not getting as much ormus as I should?

 

How can you turn salt into ormus? Is ormus a salt?

 

So, is ormus a hydroxide?

 

How do I know that ormus is really precious elements in another state of matter and not just mineral powder?

 

You use Sodium Hydroxide and Hydrogen Chloride in most of your formulations. Aren’t those chemicals dangerous?

 

You say “clathrate”. What does that mean?

 

Why do you quote the Emerald Tablet?

 

Are there heavy metals in your ormus?

 

Is there any Fluoride in your ormus?

 

Why do you add glycerin to your products?

 

What kind of glycerin do you use?

 

You use Grape Seed Extract in formulating your Ormus Vitaceae. Besides the obvious antioxidant benefits, are there any health concerns I should be aware of?

 

How much is a single dose?

 

How long before I feel the effects?

 

How many doses should be taken in one day?

 

Is there a point when I should stop taking it?

 

What is a “healing crisis”?

 

Could a “healing crisis” be dangerous?

 

Can ormus cure cancer?

 

Can ormus cure HIV/AIDS?

 

If you are trying to help out humanity, why do you charge money for your products?

 

If your products are safe for human consumption, why do you warn that consumption is “at your own risk”?

 

I want to make ormus myself. Where can I start?

 
 
 
 
 

 

What is the “Atman”?

 

This is the “true self” in the self of each being, the ideal personality, attainable by all beings due to their inborn potential for enlightenment.

 

This true Self is found when one “forgets the ego-self”. The doctrine of “no-self” really means awakening to a self that is without any limits and thus invisible: “No-self means to awaken to a Self that is so vast and limitless that it cannot be seen.” There is the need for an almost passionate encounter with the “person” of the essential True Self.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%80tman_%28Hinduism%29

 
 

 

What is the True Self?

 

“Any phenomenon [“dharma”] that is true [“satya”], real [“tattva”], eternal [“nitya”], sovereign/autonomous [“aishvarya”] and whose foundation is unchanging [“ashraya-aviparinama”] is termed ‘the Self’ [atman].” (translated from Dharmaksema’s version of the Mahayana Mahaparinirvana Sutra).

 

“This true self — so the Buddha of such scriptures indicates — must never be confused with the ordinary, ever-changing, worldly ego, which, with all its emotional and moral taints and turmoil, conceals the true self from view. Far from being possessed of the negative attributes of the mundane ego, the Buddhic or nirvanic Self is proclaimed by the Buddha of the Nirvāna Sūtra to be characterised by “great loving-kindness, great compassion, great sympathetic joy, and great equanimity”

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C4%80tman_%28Hinduism%29

 
 

 

How did “The Atman Principle” start?

 

We began experimenting with Ormus, extracted from special sea salt, not knowing if it would really work or not. Having a little knowledge of the process, following guides found online, and possessing a basic understanding of chemistry, we completed the first extraction and dissolved one teaspoon of the washed precipitate in a glass of water. On the very first day of trying what we now call “Dead Sea Ormus”, we found it had an immediate energizing effect on the body and mind.

 
 

 

Why Ormus?

 

“Each of us has an etheric double, which is the coarsest of the subtle counterparts of our physical body. This and some subplanes of the astral are the level or home of an ‘elemental’, associated with the innate consciousness of the physical body. This is a separate consciousness, like those I touched on in explaining the nature of consciousness in matter, earlier.

 

“Regardless of the physical damage cellular DNA may sustain, such as by ionizing radiation, phage-induced mutations, etc., the subtle template is always there, and though it may be depleted of vitality, it is not susceptible to these sorts of structural damage. It is around this prescient organizational form that our bodies grew, in genomic expression, once the individualization phase began in later fetal progress. Every molecule **related to organization and structure** has its subtle counterpart, within it. This is the same matrix which has been observed in the “phantom leaf effect”, etc., in Kirlian photography.

 

“Kundalini and ORMEs both function, in large part, in 4th dimensional astral levels. The original subtle “backup copy” of the DNA is readily available to them, at the precise place where it is needed, right at the damage site in the errant cell’s DNA. The subtle part lies, superimposed 4th dimensionally, right where the physical part is, and there is no problem at all, in seeing where the two don’t agree. There are a variety of mechanisms that repair DNA. In some cases, given sufficient ORMEs in the system, kundalini simply uses the ORMEs as a mechanism, like a read/write head so-to-speak, in repairing the damage. ORMEs are used to transfer a resonance from the subtle template, to guide the DNase, polymerase, endonuclease, and other various enzymes in removing and recoding the damaged base sequences. Each of the bases has a distinct vibrational signature, which the enzymes have no trouble at all in recognizing.”

 

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/tw/dna.htm

 
 

 

What is the difference between ORMEs and Ormus?

 

David Hudson, a cotton farmer from Arizona, coined the term “ORMEs” (an acronym for “Orbitally Re-arranged Monoatomic Elements”) as his formulation of Ormus from the Black Alkali soil on his farm. He has some variations of ORMEs, such as S-ORME and G-ORME for s-orbitally re-arranged atoms and ORMEs from pure elemental Gold. There is some debate as to whether the materials are truly monoatomic or diatomic (since his material is claimed to be superconductive, and superconductive material need at least two atoms in a nanocluster to become a Bose-Einstain condensate), but we have tried his Ascension Alchemy, Octave I, and found it to be very powerful. Our experiencing David Hudson’s ORMEs formed the baseline for our familiarity with the general effects of Ormus and the frequencies it introduces. Ormus is considered to be another name for the same type of material, with differences in source material, extraction method, and treatment of the material.

 

http://www.subtleenergies.com/ormus/patents/Worldpat.htm

 

We believe that David Hudson took his material further than general Ormus extraction by performing a number of proprietary techniques for charging (which may have included repeated heating and cooling cycles and charging with a frequency which is electrically resonant with the material).

 

Ormus can come from many sources, including volcanic soil, sea salt, plants grown on volcanic soil, pure platinum group metals, black alkali soil, groundwater (look up “Vortex trap”), morning dew, and even from the air (look up “Air trap”).

 
 

 

In what way does ormus energize?

 

Not like anything anyone would normally experience, not to our knowledge. It isn’t like a caffeine rush, or anything gross like that. This energy is subtle, it can be felt throughout the whole body, in every cell, in the chakras. When charged, the effect is very pronounced. There are a number of effects from Ormus ingestion, from the “Hu” sound that many people experience to the increase in dream activity and quality thereof, improvement in complexion, restoration of hair color, increase in vitality and energy levels, calming and centering energy, synchronization of brain hemispheres, better sleep, and even more amazing effects that we seek to achieve upon further development.*

 

Many people have tried Ormus by now, and for those who are sensitive to noticing it’s effects, they often describe it as highly transformative. Some people feel nothing at all. However, it is said that just because someone isn’t particularly sensitive to what is going on, doesn’t mean it isn’t working. We urge caution: the effects are cumulative, so go with the low dose for about a month to gauge the effects. Some people may even require less.

 
 

 

There are already a number of Ormus companies out there. Why create another?

 

We believe that each company is unique and has it’s own special novelty in the products it formulates. Everybody has something special to contribute, and we consider the Ormus movement to be more than just a bunch of products for sale. You have liquid formulations, white powders, salty crystals, materials extracted from noble metals, from volcanic soil, from sea salt, with morning dew, electrolyzed colloidals, etc, all of them very great products, and we believe that they do everything that they say they do.

 

We strongly believe in diversity, and even The Atman Principle has it’s own unique products that nobody else formulates. Specifically, The Atman Principle has some very ambitious and lofty goals of it’s own.. the ideas for which are already in the works, but like every company, we need to grow and increase our customer base so that we may re-invest in materials and perform the research and development necessary to achieve the cutting-edge materials we are aiming for.

 

Years after we began experimenting with Ormus, we decided to start a company with the intention of formulating ormus products so that others can have the opportunity to experience this. Specifically, individuals who wish to partake without getting involved in the chemistry.

 
 

 

What is the goal of your company?

 

Evolution through Alchemy!

 

Our goal is to provide products that can aid people in accelerating their evolution through the ingestion of powerful alchemical, high-spin materials that affect the body, mind and spirit. You can call it Manna, Ormus, ORMEs, M-state, White Powder Gold, Mfkzt, whatever you will, but we understand that modern alchemy still has work that needs to be done before we can call our products “The Philosopher’s Stone”. The Atman Principle is willing to do the research and develop advanced materials which serve this purpose.

 
 

 

The Philosopher’s Stone? You mean turn Lead into Gold?

 

The Stone of the Wise. Esoterically speaking, transmutation of the soul.

 

If we could develop a material that could allow a person to ingest a consumable talisman before going to bed, and, at will, be able to launch themselves into a rich, vivid, alternate universe, allowing them to do spiritual and astral work to assist their soul in evolving, and be up in time for breakfast, then that would be just one of the many things we seek to accomplish here. Physical longevity is a definite goal of ours, however, levitation, clairvoyance, prophetic vision, mind-reading, bilocation, mind manifestation…

 

Read the interview of a person who completed a 42-day fast, while supplementing with m-state Rhodium and Iridium, beginning with 250 mg/day on the eighth day, and working up to 2,500 mg a day: For the Record Interview

 
 

 

How can the ultimate power of the original self be manifested?

 
 

Here, we will quote again from an article about the atman, as it pertains to Buddhism:

 

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Developing the self

 

While the suttas strongly attack notions of an eternal, unchanging Self, they “see an enlightened person as one whose empirical self is highly developed.”One with great self has a mind which is not at the mercy of outside stimuli or its own moods, but is imbued with self-control and self-contained. The mind of such a one is without boundaries, not limited by attachment or I-identification. One can transform one’s self from an “insignificant self” into a “great self” through practices such as loving-kindness and mindfulness (sati). The suttas portray one disciple who has developed his mind through loving-kindness saying: “Formerly this mind of mine was limited, but now my mind is immeasurable.”

 

At the culmination of the path is the arahant, described as “one of developed self” (bhāvit-atto), who has carried the process of personal development and self-reliance to its perfection. Such a person has developed all the good aspects of their personality. An arahant is described as “one with a mind like a diamond”, it can “cut” anything and is itself uncuttable; nothing can affect it. The suttas portray “one of developed self” in the following ways:

 

* Virtue, wisdom, and the meditative and other spiritual faculties are well-developed;
* Body is “developed” and “steadfast”;
* Mind is “developed”, “steadfast”, “well-released” and without ill-will;
* When confronted with objects of the six senses, he or she has equanimity and is not confused, seeing only what is seen, and hearing only what is heard, not mental projections and elaborations such as attachment, desire, and aversion;
* The six senses are “controlled” and “guarded”;
* He or she is “self-controlled” (atta-danto) and “with a well-controlled self” (attanā sudantena); and is
* “Unlimited, great, deep, immeasurable, hard to fathom, with much treasure, arisen (like the) ocean.”

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The Atman in Buddhism

 

Ideally, we think anyone should have the right to be able to do this, but that someone must extinguish the ego in order to harness that power, in the service of uplifting humankind and not just for self-gratification. To allow everyone to have equal access to these materials. We understand that the universe has a check-mechanism, whereas, the only way for anyone to accomplish this is to prove to the universe that they deserve it – through balance and true awakening. We believe this to be the ultimate power of the original self. And such can not be accomplished until one becomes in touch with it.

 
 

 

Six senses? I thought there were only five?

 

Buddhism and other Indian epistemologies identify six “senses” [Ayatana] as opposed to the Western identification of five. In Buddhism, “mind” denotes an internal sense organ which interacts with sense objects that include sense impressions, feelings, perceptions and volition.

 

Ayatana

 
 

 

How much m-state (Element) is in (Product)?

 

Currently, our sources for ormus are organic and natural (consisting of plants & sea salt) so we can not list the specific amounts of individual m-state elements present in our materials, despite the fact that they are there. However, when we begin to develop formulations which begin with a pure element, then we will be able to say exactly how much and what kind there is. Until then, we can give a general estimate, based on reports from previous experimenters. Also, different sources of Ormus have a different spectrum of m-state elements. See Barry Carter’s Natural Sources of ORMUS Materials and ADDENDUM TO QUEST FOR THE PHILOSOPHER’S STONE for more information. Different elements in m-state form do have different effects. Information on the observed action of specific elements in m-state form can be found in ORMUS Variations. “Ormus” is in a class all of it’s own and is actually much more than just a nutritional supplement.

 
 

 

If you don’t know exactly (how much/what kind) of m-state elements are in your products, how do you know that there are any at all?

 

Because assays have been completed after ormus extracted from natural sources has been converted into a form which can be read by spectrographic analysis. They are there. Also, we have tested our materials and compared the effects to other products on the market which do start with pure elements. The understanding is that ormus is present in various combinations all around us, in every rock, every tree, every grain of sand, especially in volcanic soil, in the dew, and even in the air we breathe (we believe that certain breathing exercises, such as pranayama yoga, may be a way to extract ormus from the air). Our art is one of concentration and energizing.

 
 

 

Ok, I’ll try it. How can I buy ormus from you?

 

We accept VISA, Mastercard, American Express, Discover, and PayPal through our own secured cart system. You can find our products in a number of ways. You can find them on the top menu, side menu, by clicking the “Free Shipping” banner, by clicking “The Atman Principle” banner, and also here.

 
 

 

Is my credit card safe with The Atman Principle?

 

NOTE: We no longer use Stripe.com to process credit cards.

 

The Atman Principle never has access to your credit card information and never will. We use Cart Ninja to process credit cards and we will never even see your credit card number. Cart Ninja uses DigiCert SSL technology to encrypt every transaction with 128-bit security.

 

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However, if you are uncomfortable with typing your credit card number into Cart Ninja, we do accept PayPal.

 
 

 

Do you accept PayPal?

 

Yes, we do.

 
 

 

How long before my order ships?

 

Since we formulate our products as they are ordered, it could take from 3 to 5 business days before we ship, depending on what is in stock when your order is made.

 
 

 

How long before my order arrives?

 

It depends on where you live. We use USPS Priority Mail to ship within the USA, and USPS First Class International to ship outside the USA. When your order is shipped, a tracking number will be sent to you via email and will also be available on request.

 
 

 

What is your refund policy?

 

If, within 30 days of receiving your order, you are not completely satisfied, please send back the unused portion of your order and we will issue a refund when we receive the product. Buyer must pay return shipping.

 
 

 

My ormus has settled in the bottle. Does this mean I am not getting as much ormus as I should?

 

Certainly not. We find that, even after the ormus has settled to the lowest it can get in a large container, after we transfer it to a smaller container, it settles even more. We think it has to do with the size of the container since a thick and voluminous bottle of ormus is in a constant state of settling. Also, it settles much more quickly when cool. If you would like us to send you a picture of your ormus in the jar when it is freshly precipitated, all you have to do is ask.

 
 

 

How can you turn salt into ormus? Is ormus a salt?

 

The process of extracting ormus from saltwater can be as simple as altering the pH of the liquid and washing the precipitate, although it is really more complicated than that. Certain materials are insoluble within a specific pH range, while others are soluble no matter what the pH is. This difference can be used to affect a separation of materials, by transferring from a liquid medium into a solid medium. We generally use hydroxides to precipitate our ormus out of solution.

 
 

 

So, is ormus a hydroxide?

 

Even though ormus precipitates out of liquid with hydroxides, it is, itself, thought to be incapable of forming molecular bonds with other atoms, due to its high-spin state. Because of this, it can not be a hydroxide. However, it is possible for m-state elements to hide in-between molecules in a molecular clathrate structure, allowing them to “ride” with the precipitate out of the water. In that regard, a cloud of m-state elements can exist in a hydroxide matrix, being electrically repelled by the polar molecules enough to maintain a gelatinous consistency and sink with it to the bottom.

 
 

 

How do I know that ormus is really precious elements in another state of matter and not just mineral powder?

 

Different materials can be composed of the same exact element, yet can have completely different properties, depending on the arrangement of its atoms. A simple example is Carbon: It is black, soft, and opaque when its atoms are arranged amorphously. But it is clear, hard, and translucent when its atoms are arranged in a crystalline matrix. Same element, different material.

 

An ormus example: When Gold atoms are connected with each other electrochemically, they form a lattice structure in which the valence electrons are free to flow, allowing for chemical reactions and electrical conductivity. The material is shiny, yellow, has a metallic luster, and, if you vaporize it under extreme heat, machines can read the spectral lines emitted from it and recognize it as “Gold”.

 

But when Gold atoms are separated from each other, into microclusters, the material no longer appears yellow and shiny, but takes on a red hue. They can still conduct electricity, but not as efficiently because they are not in a solid, unbroken matrix anymore. However, red powder Gold can still be melted back into a yellow, metallic matrix of Gold atoms, and, if you burn it under a DC arc and read the spectral lines, it will still read as “Gold” to the machine.

 

Now, when these clusters of Gold atoms are broken down to the point where their individual atoms lose all electrochemical bonds between each other, they stop behaving like a metal and start behaving like a ceramic. They resist electrical charge and have very strange properties. Gold, when in the white powder state, will no longer read as “Gold” under the same method of analysis performed on the same material which was once metallic.

 

So, starting with metallic Gold, a material can read as “Gold”, but when in the white powder state, the very same material does not read as “Gold” anymore. The Gold is still there, just in another form. This is Gold in its ormus form. There is a spectrum of elements which can exist in this state and these are thought to be the “ghost atoms” which microbiologists can’t identify, yet play a crucial role in life science. It’s easy to miss if you don’t know what to look for because these materials are very, very subtle. Hence, we are attempting to bring this more into the focus of those who are interested in understanding the science of advanced materials such as these.

 

It is said that King Solomon swept up the white powder from dried up lakes and converted it into many talents of metallic Gold. He wasn’t “making” Gold, he was only changing the form of the Gold which was already there.

 

Just as darkness is simply the absence of light, confusion is simply the absence of understanding. Understand this state of matter, and you will realize that “White Powder Gold” is not “Iron, Silica, and Alumina”.

 
 

 

You use Sodium Hydroxide and Hydrogen Chloride in most of your formulations. Aren’t those chemicals dangerous?

 

When they are isolated, very much so. But when the two molecules are balanced, they form a neutral solution of water and salt. Their strength comes from their electropositive or electronegative molecular charge. That is the mechanism responsible for their action upon pH. We use this action as a tool to affect transformations on the solution, altering the solubility of dissolved materials within the liquid. Binding up loose protons with hydroxides allows dissolved materials to bond with the remaining hydroxides and precipitate out of the solution. What remains after the salt and excess hydroxides are washed out is the m-state in a molecular clathrate.

 
 

 

You say “clathrate”. What does that mean?

 

A clathrate is sort of a “molecular cage” of atoms or molecules, which trap other atoms or molecules in between them, but without forming a chemical bond. This is the way we think something which can not form bonds can be caught and concentrated. Barry Carter used the metaphor of trying to pick up a greasy bowling ball with your bare hands. The trick is to get it into a box and carry the box. The clathrate is the “box” we use to “trap” the ormus into a solid form.

 
 

 

Why do you quote the Emerald Tablet?

 

Because…

 

Truly, without deceit, certain, and most veritable.
 
That which is Below corresponds to that which is Above,
and that which is Above corresponds to that which is Below
to accomplish the miracles of the One Thing.
And just as all things come from this One Thing
through the meditation of One Mind,
so do all created things originate from this One Thing
through Transformation.
 
Its father is the Sun;
Its mother is the Moon.
The Wind carries it in its belly.
Its nurse is the Earth.
It is the origin of all,
the consecration of the Universe.
Its inherent Strength is perfected,
If it is turned into Earth.
 
Separate the Earth from Heaven,
the Subtle from the Gross,
gently and with great ingenuity.
It rises from Earth to Heaven
and descends again to Earth,
thereby combining within itself
the powers of both the Above and the Below
 
Thus will you obtain the Glory of the Whole Universe.
All Obscurity will be clear to you.
This is the greatest Force of all powers,
because it overcomes every Subtle thing
and penetrates every Solid thing.
 
In this way was the Universe created.
From this will come many wondrous Applications,
because this is the Pattern.
 
Therefore am I called Thrice Greatest Hermes,
having all three parts of the wisdom of the Whole Universe.
Herein have I completely explained the Operation of the Sun,

 
 

 

Are there heavy metals in your ormus?

 

Regarding our ormus derived from sea salt, we use the wet method to separate potential gilcrest precipitate from our formulations. As far as our Fire Alchemy products, Ormus Vitaceae comes from high quality Concord Grape Juice, Maiz Morado Ormus comes from Purple Corn grown in Peru, and the final step of White Dove precipitation utilizes a pH swing in the same fashion as the Wet Method. We do not expect heavy metals in our ormus and we don’t add any heavy metals either. Besides, we’ve been taking our own products for years and we are not experiencing any of the symptoms of heavy metal poisoning. In fact, we feel much better now than we were before we started taking ormus.

 
 

 

Is there any Fluoride in your ormus?

 

We only use pure, distilled water in the formulation of all of our products.

 
 

 

Why do you add glycerin to your products?

 

Once we’d discovered that glycerin could be used to naturally preserve liquid materials without using salt, alcohol or artificial preservatives, we began using it in all of our formulations. It gives us peace of mind when shipping potentially perishable liquid ormus. Glycerin is slightly sweet, but does not decrease the potency of the ormus at all.

 
 

 

What kind of glycerin do you use?

 

Only 100% Vegetable Glycerin. Neither animals nor alcohol are used at any step in the process, making our ormus Vegan, Kosher and Halal-compliant.

 
 

 

You use Grape Seed Extract in formulating your Ormus Vitaceae. Besides the obvious antioxidant benefits, are there any health concerns I should be aware of?

 

As Wikipedia sayeth…

 

Oral grape seed extract is used in capsules or tablets usually containing 50 mg or 100 mg. Insufficient scientific information is known, however, about how long-term use of grape seed extract might affect health or any disease.
 
Side-effects and cautions, other NCCAM advisories:
 
In general, grape seed extract is well tolerated when taken by mouth, although it is better tolerated when encapsulated, as its taste is bitter. It has been used safely for up to 8 weeks in clinical trials. Side-effects most often include headache, a dry, itchy scalp, dizziness, or nausea. Interactions between grape seed extract and medicines or other supplements have not been carefully studied
 
Due to the possible action of proanthocyanidins on limiting platelet adhesion, grape seed extract may act as a blood-thinner, increasing clotting time.

 

* We only use 1 gram of Grape Seed Extract per 2 ounces of Ormus Vitaceae. At 48 doses per bottle, that’s about 20.83 mg per dose – not even half a low dose capsule of typical Grape Seed Extract. We could put in more, but this is grape juice ormus (with grape seed extract), not the other way around. Besides, it synergizes nicely with the ormus at this dose and promotes the absorption of ormus into the bloodstream by relaxing the blood vessels.

 
 

 

How much is a single dose?

 

Generally, we measure one teaspoon of Wet Method precipitate into 8 ounces of filtered water, but any suitable liquid may be substituted. As for the Fire Alchemy products, we generally take 12-24 drops and hold it in the mouth until the m-state becomes reconstituted by the saliva, at which point we don’t consider it a waste to swallow because the enzymes have had a chance to assimilate it.

 
 

 

How long before I feel the effects?

 

Depending on individual sensitivities, some people feel it right away, while others don’t begin to feel anything after at least a month. Also, some effects may be noticed immediately, and some may take from a week to a month to take effect. We believe the current state of a person’s overall health could also play a role, as m-state is believed to be in many natural foods, only in smaller amounts. Personally, I noticed an immediate effect upon consumption – an immediate elevation of subtle energy levels (waves of energy going up the spine). At one teaspoon per day, I was able to hear “The Sound” in just under a week. Experiences do vary.

 
 

 

How many doses should be taken in one day?

 

We start with one dose per day. We recommend beginning with a low dose to establish a feel for how much is needed. Consuming high amounts of m-state in a short period of time is not recommended due to the inability of determining the sensitivity of the individual at such a short timescale. Also, we hear that excessive consumption is simply a waste of material, since the body just pees it out.

 

Also, someone once said that once you start to feel the overwhelming effects of taking too much, if you don’t know what to do with the power, then it will do you no good. That is why we stress the recommendation that the small dose is best to begin with and familiarization with meditation be made a high priority, as well as clearing possible energy blockages before flooding the meridians with an abundance of Chi/Prana. We are not experts, however we do seek to provide advanced materials to those who do know what to do with them. We also believe that these substances can be positively used to aid in pursuit of the re-discovery of the ultimate self. Hence, the name we chose, “The Atman Principle”.

 
 

 

Is there a point when I should stop taking it?

 

That is solely up to you. We know people who have continued to take it every day, with no ill effect whatsoever, and other people who take a dose a day for about a month, then go off for a month. If someone takes it for just one day and does not feel anything, that doesn’t mean it’s not working. Since the effects are cumulative, we find it best to try the daily dose regimen for at least one month before deciding whether it works for them or not. At the point when they notice the effects, they can decide if they want to continue or if they’re not ready for it yet. However, if you experience discomfort, your body may be going through what we call a “healing crisis”.

 
 

 

What is a “healing crisis”?

 

In the course of a persons life, it is understood that they will inevitably come into contact with and absorb some toxins from the environment. Many of these toxins accumulate in the body and become covered in layers of fat and tissue. Ormus is understood to help facilitate the removal of toxins from the body and, as the toxins are pulled from the deeper tissues, they must pass through the bloodstream on their way to the liver and the kidneys for excretion. This can cause one to temporarily re-experience the original toxic symptoms in the process.

 
 

 

Could a “healing crisis” be dangerous?

 

If large amounts of toxins are rapidly freed from the tissues while the liver and kidneys are malfunctioning, they may reach dangerous levels in the bloodstream before they can be removed from the body. If you believe that you may have a lot of toxins accumulated in your body and/or you may have liver or kidney problems, it is strongly recommended that you undergo a liver and kidney detox before beginning to take ormus. Since we are not doctors, we must recommend that you check with your physician before taking ormus, if that is the case.

 
 

 

Can ormus cure cancer?

 

Since any medicinal qualities ormus may possess have not been reviewed by the Food and Drug Administration, we can only sell ormus as a dietary supplement and we can not comment on the effectiveness of ormus on cancer or any other disease. Studies have shown that certain m-state elements can increase the metabolism of the body, increasing the metabolic rate of cancer cells as well as normal cells. In that case, we would actually recommend against taking ormus until after one has eradicated the cancer.

 

Some reports indicate that there are specific m-state elements (such as Rhodium) which may help the immune system deal with cancer, without influencing metabolism, but the element must be isolated for that effect to be useful and we need clinical trials to prove it before the medical world will even consider it as a possibility.

 

However, we do believe that there are other ways to overcome cancer, such as eliminating processed foods from the diet (refined sugar is one example), switching to a raw food diet (carrots and aloe vera cold extract are said to have high amounts of m-state Rhodium) and taking up a healthier lifestyle. We have also heard some amazing reports of Cannabis Oil. Google Rick Simpson. If you or somebody you know has cancer, you might wish to see this video.

 

On another note, we have heard of a doctor who has invented a device, called the “Somatoscope”, which enabled him to trace the lifecycle of tiny lifeforms in the blood and organic liquids. These lifeforms, which he called “somatids”, could not be seen by conventional microscopes due to the wavelengths of light used to illuminate the samples being too large and causing blinding diffraction. Through observation of various samples of blood from healthy and diseased individuals, he was able to determine that these “somatids” evolved into larger and more complex forms in the blood samples of individuals who had HIV, cancer or other terminal illnesses. He was said to even be able to predict when someone was on the way to developing a serious disease, just by looking at their blood under his Somatoscope. With the knowledge he gained from studying the somatid cycle, he developed a drug, which he named 714X, which was said to reverse the effects of cancer and other terminal illnesses. His name is Dr. Naessens. We find it interesting that his 714X was made illegal in the USA, however it is legal in Canada (at the time of this writing).

 

You can find more information about Dr. Naessens, including patents for his Somatoscope and 714X here. A short, introductory video can be seen here.

 
 

 

Can ormus cure HIV/AIDS?

 

Again, we can not state the effectiveness of ormus on disease since it has not been evaluated by the FDA. However, studies suggest that ormus can increase the size of the Thymus by 40%. The thymus is the organ responsible for teaching the lymphocytes (white blood cells) how to defend the body from infection. We believe that having a healthy, well-armed immune system is absolutely essential in helping to prevent microbial takeover. Our company has considered expanding into the colloidal silver market, led by reports of Silver’s ability to kill microbes (such as viruses, bacteria, and fungi). We believe that colloidal silver is a form of silver which has been made bio-available and could possibly work to prevent infection. Of course, that hasn’t been reviewed by the FDA either, but don’t take our word for it. You can read more about colloidal silver here.

 
 

 

If you are trying to help out humanity, why do you charge money for your products?

 

We wish we could just give our products away, but unfortunately, we still have bills to pay, like most other people, and these materials do cost time and money to make.

 
 

 

If your products are safe for human consumption, why do you warn that consumption is “at your own risk”?

 

If we state that your consumption of our products is at your own risk, it is only a general formality because we sell supplements that have not yet been evaluated by the FDA. Many companies sell supplements which contain a material that could be harmful in large doses. Likewise, the basic components our supplements are composed of are all generally recognized as safe to consume at the recommended dosages.

 
 

 

I want to make ormus myself. Where can I start?

 

Although our products are definitely not considered dangerous, hazardous materials definitely ARE dangerous. If you intend to do this yourself, PLEASE be educated about the typical precautions when handling hazardous materials.

 

A background in chemistry is highly recommended and remember: Safety First! (The last thing we want is someone chemically asphyxiating themself, suffering from severe burns, or going blind due to negligence) Chemistry involving hazardous materials should only be attempted by someone who knows what they are doing and is fully responsible for whatever may arise as a result.

 

We recommend to become familiar with the MSDS of each and every material that is to be worked with, follow instructions carefully, and be safe. An apron, goggles, gloves, neutralizing solutions and a workspace isolated from children and animals are wise considerations.

 

If you are a DIY, with the time and resources to make it yourself, many different methods of extracting ormus yourself can be found here. If you believe you have what it takes, don’t be discouraged by the warnings. If you are careful and responsible, it can be a very rewarding experience. Working with chemicals is a lot like driving a car. Both have serious risks, but if you know what you’re doing and are responsible, then there are significant advantages.

 

If you are uncomfortable with the idea of working with hazardous materials, then perhaps making your own ormus is not the best solution. Fortunately, we are here to provide you with an alternative.

 
 
 
 

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These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. In fact, this product is a dietary supplement, not a drug, and, according to the FDA, only drugs can legally diagnose, treat, cure or prevent diseases. This product is intended to supplement the subtle energy of the mind and body with Qi derived from natural and organic sources.

 

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